If $10 is a lot to you, you got 99 problems



Category: Dating

I wrote the following on a forum thread where people were complaining about spending too much money dating in Ukraine:


Do we really need MORE debate about what is a “paying for it chump” versus being a total cheapass? It really is not that difficult.

Yes, if you take her to happy hour at Porter Pub, order the cheapest and shittiest Ukrainian beer or vodka, and are keeping her on a leash to make sure she’s not ordering something above 70 UAH, you’re going to look like an idiot. This is true in any culture where females aren’t “proud and independent”.

At the same time, you certainly don’t have to indulge her request to go eat the most expensive sushi at Mafia.

Pick a middle level to high end bar where cocktails are 75 UAH. Pick a time that is past dinnertime, or casually mention that you have dinner plans with your friends that evening before you’re meeting her.

Most girls aren’t going to have more than 1 or 2 cocktails on a first date there. Again, most. There are exceptions of course. If you want to drink more, have a whiskey at home beforehand or hit a cheaper bar solo first. Then you’ve spent all of 300, at most, for two of you to have drinks in a nice venue, and you’ve avoided all of the drama and headaches of the secret-sushi order.


You can go for a walk after.

And if you’re going to whine and complain about 300 UAH, dedicate some of the brainpower you’re wasting about how to avoid an “expensive” date and use it to make a bit of money.


I’ll be honest, I’ve never quite understood this mindset.

You want to travel the world, date foreign girls, and live a better life. And part of that is usually paying for dates. You won’t see girls offering to “Go Dutch” with you when it comes to dating in the good ‘ol Former Soviet Union.

And that’s okay.

300 UAH = $10 USD

$10 for a date at a higher-end place with nice cocktails?

Are you joking me?

In a place like NYC, LA, or London, that kind of date is going to cost you at minimum probably $60 ($12/drink = $48 + tip).

God forbid you want to order some food…

And again, it’s a total waste of brainpower. Why think so much about how to avoid paying for a cocktail or a plate of food, when you could dedicate that brainpower to just making more money so you don’t have to worry about it?

It’s something I’ll never get.

In any case, if you want to learn more about how to date girls abroad, run a business, and to quit being an unabundant chump, you owe it to yourself to check out “DA-net”.

And, fair warning, it’s the same price as that aforementioned date would be ($10).

Highly suggest you DON’T join if that’s gonna make or break you.



Keep causing Trouble,

Kyle Trouble

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